A Conversation with Ric Orlando
By Melissa Everett for
www.infocus-zine.com
Chef Ric Orlando, the owner of New World
Home Cooking, is one of the Hudson Valley’s most inventive and articulate
entrepreneurs. Conveniently situated between Woodstock and the
Thruway, New World offfers gourmet fare in a style honored by Metrolands
as “best category-defying restaurant.” The everyday diner might
just as well be there for an organic hamburger, an entree of ecologically
harvested fish, a specialty such as shrimp with andouille sausage or
lemon-grass chicken wings, or a decadent dessert like bananas flamed in dark
rum. A popular business meeting spot, New World is also a mecca for
fans of “Slow Food” -- a social and cultural movement to
reclaim the ceremonial, aesthetic side of eating as well as expressing a
commitment to healthy, locally produced food.
Orlando started working in restaurants as
a teenager, “back when it was economically viable to play punk rock
and work in a restaurant so you could eat.” He experimented with writing,
publishing and sales jobs before committing to the business. The son of a
working-class Italian family in New Haven, he gravitated to the Yale side of
town and then to Boston. There, he “ got into a little think
tank of Harvard and MIT people who learned how to drink wine, eat pate,
and have political discourses while working in places like the Harvest in
Cambridge, one of the earliest high end restaurants to use whole, local foods
as the basis of a gourmet eating experience.” He and his wife, Liz
Corrado, came to this area to be closer to family, “fell in love with the
mid-Hudson Valley and started analyzing ways to make a living with
food.”
Chef Ric, now 43, still spends at least
fifty hours a week running the restaurant. Employees describe him as
perfectionistic but inspiring. With the remaining twenty hours in his
work week, he has emerged as a leading educator about nutrition and the
political economy of food, or why local organic food is worth every penny it
costs. He’s working on a cookbook and seeking national sponsors for
a series, “Ric Orlando’s TV Kitchen,” now showing on WMHT,
Channel 17, in Albany. He wove the themes of food, education and
inspiration together in an animated phone interview:
How does your way of running a
restaurant affect the bottom line?
In America we have
a tainted food supply because we think we need it to be as cheap as
possible. The whole-food method makes an operation more labor- and
skill-intensive. We have a lot of high salary people in the kitchen,
which is great because there’s less dependency on me. We have a lot
of small suppliers which means running around. Our cost for food is higher than
an ordinary restaurant would pay. However, I’ve developed a price
point that I know people are comfortable with: dinners mostly in
the teens, appetizers in the single digits. New World Home Cooking
was never designed to be an over-the-top, foie gras
experience. It’s more peasant-inspired. That lets me get more
creative -- although I risk turning into my
grandmother.
Do you mainly hire people who share the
vision?
The management
team all shares the vision. Some of our servers probably have cars full
of McDonald’s bags, but if they don’t smirk, it’s o.k. We
are also on guard against hiring purists. If a customer asks “how is the
venison chop?” and the waiter says “I don’t know, I’m a
vegetarian,” that’s a problem too.
What’s your perspective on
protecting the farm economy in the Hudson Valley?
Agriculture in
this area depends crucially on more organic, specialty and value-added farming,
because those products bring in 2 - 4 times the price of more conventional
produce. The basics are being taken over by conglomerates -- the
celery, lettuce, and cabbage. Market support and promotion are also
important. It’s a good thing for successful restaurants to promote
local farms by putting names of providers on menus.
What about ordinary restaurant-goers do
create a more earth-friendly food system?
Lots. You
can reduce your dependence on takeout. You can also ask restaurants not
to use those little portion controlled packets of butter, sugar, and jam,
which add up to tons of solid waste. Some of this is driven by
health departments, but ask them to change what they can. We’re
service businesses, so we do listen.
What’s your experience of
“Slow food,” as a social movement?
The most
interesting thing to me is the way that it crosses political lines. It
brings together two elements in the society who have a lot of things in common
and don’t know it -- wealthy conservative people, especially those with
large real estate holdings who have been involved with food, such as big wine
companies, and very progressive cutting edge food producers who are
conservative in their own way, in that they are resisting the trend to
processed food and synthetic soil.
What does success look like to
you?
Staying alive. You
don’t get rich owning a restaurant unless you have no conscience or many
restaurants.
Beyond that,
success is modeling a healthier approach to food. It’s common
to think that there’s a polarization between altruism and success.
In my view, to get mom and pop thinking differently about food, you have to be
successful and visible. I want restaurants in strip malls offering
sandwiches made from wild trout instead of from chickens raised in
boxes.
The theme of my TV
show is “We want clean food.” I have the audience chant that!
Every show starts with a 5 minute rant on some aspect of food systems, eating
and health, like the difference between sea salt and processed salt, an animal
raised in a pasture versus in a box, the trace nutrients and their impacts on
health. One of my early rants was about touching your food. Buying
an organic chicken and making 3 different meals from it -- a soup, an Indian
dish, a snack. Or running your hands through piles of raw beans, or
kneading dough. People need this dimension in their lives.
Food and energy
are the essential issues facing our society. These two industries
permeate everything we do. Both have high environmental impacts, and both can
be done differently by entrepreneurs who think about the public
interest.
Melissa Everett is author of Making
a Living While Making a Difference and Executive Director of the
Sustainable Careers Institute (www.sustainablecareers.com).
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